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I just wrote this comment over on right-thinking there seems to be a "debate" on Creationism there a lot.

thought it might bear repeating here.

[quote]But God isn’t an angel, and He specifically said “one of us”, which not only implies that he is a member of whatever subset He is referencing, but that He is not the only member of that subset.[/quote]

Well, Drum, I think your assertion that that means only what you say is pretty weak.

First of all the writer of Genesis did not write in English. The author wrote in Hebrew. I don't know if you have studied Hebrew, but I am studying it a little now. I can say that Hebrew is one messed-up language. We were going over Genesis in class, and the professor pointed out all the ambiguities in the first line. Of course fundamentalist would probably think that Satan amde him teach that. There is a lot to say about the meaning of the term satan too, by the way.

There are instances in the bible where "Angels of the Lord" may actually mean God himself. One of the Hebrew words for God is Elohim, which literally translated would mean gods. in regards to the plurality of God. Most Christians believe in the Trinity, meaning that when God said us, he mean "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."

My point is that you shouldn't pretend to completely understand what is written there based on one translation.

This of course also applies to everyone who uses the Bible to prove a point. Sometimes small intricacies in the text may say something.
We need to look at the broader idea that the text is getting across rather than the minute point of each tiny phrase. You gotta see the forest through the trees.

That being said, many people nowadays have a lot of false beliefs. History has a way of being rewritten. The Church being seen as an enemy is often demonized in many accounts and statements about The Church are exaggerated. Case in point the Galileo business. See here.

While it is true that the Church condemned his theory at the time, there was no sincerely harsh treatment to the man.

People like to trump up the inquisition and ignore the Catholic efforts during WW2 to save Jews.
By the way here is the Church's take on creationism: Creation


-Andrew